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		<title>Pharmalot and Herper; on Nissen &#8212; then Lipitor&#8217;s CASHMERE data. . . .</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been out of pocket most of the day, but saw this one by Matt Herper &#8212; and Ed Silverman&#8217;s cogent remarks on the same topics, earlier &#8212; thanks to PM (her latest, on reducing preventable inpatient death-rates, is great &#8212; do go see it, BTW!). 
Sort of as a tangent off of those few [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=shearlingsplowed.wordpress.com&blog=3697016&post=541&subd=shearlingsplowed&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><BR>I&#8217;ve been out of pocket most of the day, but saw this one by <a href="http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/03/fda-nissan-diabetes-biz-healthcare_mh_0703diabetes.html">Matt Herper</a> &#8212; and <a href="http://www.pharmalot.com/2008/07/the-road-to-hell-is-paved-with-biological-plausibility/">Ed Silverman&#8217;s cogent remarks</a> on the same topics, earlier &#8212; <a href="http://www.gooznews.com/archives/001101.html">thanks to PM</a> (her latest, on reducing <em>preventable</em> inpatient death-rates, is great &#8212; do go see it, BTW!). </p>
<p>Sort of as a tangent off of those few &#8212; there is also, tonight, a budding <a href="http://www.cafepharma.com/boards/showthread.php?t=283496">CafePharma thread</a> &#8212; in which the Schering-Plough Joint Venture faithful see CASHMERE [a small Pfizer/Lipitor study that came out inconclusively, using CIMT (carotid intima-media thickness) as a proxy-measure] as some vindication of Vytorin.</p>
<p>My take? &#8220;<em>Well &#8212; that&#8217;s. just. Odd. . . .</em>&#8221; </p>
<p>I am all for vigorous scientific debate &#8212; but to paint <A href="http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200807031304DOWJONESDJONLINE000719_FORTUNE5.htm">CASHMERE</a> as vindicating Vytorin is simply wishful-thinking. I am sure someone will immediately correct me if I am wrong, here, but Vytorin has no &#8220;<em>outcomes data</em>&#8221; in its favor. Lipitor plainly does &#8212; tons of it.</p>
<p>So &#8212; I&#8217;d allow that a smallish study involving Lipitor came out inconclusively &#8212; and the use of CIMT as a measurement is now suspect. That is all relatively-fair.</p>
<p>It is a horse of a completely different color, though, to suggest that this means Vytorin should be, in any way, elevated to be on a par with Lipitor &#8212; as to outcomes data. That is rubbish. Simply rubbish.</p>
<p>Vytorin simply has no data to back that claim. None.</p>
<p>Lipitor now has one inconclusive study, to add to its several larger favorable outcomes studies. Doesn&#8217;t that say it all? </p>
<p>Have a safe and happy Fourth, one and all!</p>
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